OTHER MODELLING WORK: Identifying Ready-to-Run Wagons

Identifying Kit Wagons   Identifying RTR Wagons

10 February 2014

It can sometimes be hard to work out whether ready-to-run are appropriate for a particular layout that's set in a particular time. My own interests are for a mixture of LMS/S&DJR/SR in 1930, so this list is largely an attempt to narrow down the RTR options in that field.

Please note that the list is incomplete.


Open Wagons


Graham Farish Cat No 2001 LMS 8T 5 Plank Open Wagon No 165417 Diagram 1983 Built 1938
Based on an SR diagram. The door is very wide on the Farish model, but from its pattern it may actually be based on an SR Shock Open. If you take 2mm out of the door width it looks better. The SR Shock Opens were very slightly taller than the BR Shock Opens, so this can make an interesting and slightly different wagon - too late for 1930 period though.
Alternative numbering: 422812, 423481, 450064, 450125


Graham Farish Cat No ? LMS 7 Plank Open Wagon No ? Diagram ? Built ?
Appears to be an ex-NSR 15T mineral wagon.
Alternative numbering: ?


Graham Farish 7 Plank Mineral Wagon
At first sight this appears to be an LMS ex-North Staffordshire Railway 15T loco coal wagon (the model is a fairly close match to the drawings in F J Roche's book). Lima's 7 plank open, despite the awful chassis, is actually quite an accurate and nicely detailed representation of an LMS 12T mineral wagon (much closer to this type than the Peco version).

However, upon further consideration it is actually a Railway Clearing House 7 plank mineral wagon, not the LMS diagram (they're very similar-looking) which would make it more suited to PO wagons.


Peco Cat No NR-40M LMS 12T 5 Plank Open Wagon No 345699 Diagram D1667 Built 1928-1959
Fairly typical of the earlier patterns of 17' 6" five plank wagons where the angled strapping on the sides doesn't go below the floor level. The nearest LMS diagram would be D1667, but the wheelbase should be nine feet (but longer over headstocks than the Peco 9ft wheelbase chassis). Also the door catch/pins should be mounted one plank higher. There was a similar one on a wood chassis, D1666. These were built from 1923-30, and the nearest you're likely to get for 1930. Cambrian Models seems to match it up pretty closely to its own steel-framed 5-plank. (Photo below).
Alternative numbering: 23148, 304719


Peco Cat No NR-40S SR 10T 5 Plank Wagon No 5095 Diagram 1380 Built ?
(Photo below, right-hand side).
Alternative numbering: 5099, 5486, 9509, 9642


Peco Cat No NR-40M LMS 12T 5 Plank Open Wagon No 345699 Diagram 1667 Built 1928-1959
Not an exact match - too long in the body - but passable.
Alternative numbering: 304719


Peco Cat No ? 'Butterley' 14T Steel Open Mineral Wagon Built 1935
Based on a one-off prototype built by Butterley in 1940. It's unclear why Peco picked this for their model rather than a production design but it does look similar enough to many of the numerous pre-BR steel open wagon designs.


Peco 15ft Ferry (Tube) Wagon No ? Diagram 1/449 Built 1959
A BR diagram that shouldn't even be in SR livery. It is also much shorter than it should be, so much so that it's probably not worth bothering with. It might be feasible to rebuild a Chivers BR Tube wagon using the detail strapping sliced off the Peco body to replace/rework the three centre panels. Hard though that might be it's probably easier than trying to splice two Peco bodies together.
Alternative numbering: ?


Peco 15ft Ferry Wagon with Tarpaulin Frame No 6241 Diagram 1/055 Built 1957
The angled brackets and door style are rather reminiscent of SR designs (and SR livery seems to be the commonest for this model). This is Southern Region (not Railway) Ferry Open, and fairly close to the prototype, being just a few millimetres overlong. Farish or Dapol have yet to make a better one though! In the 1980s the GWS ran a couple of these in GW livery on Speedlink services to supply their Didcot centre with coal, something for the 'Prototype for Everything' album. Being ferry wagons they were dual braked. Some did get the Railfreight red/grey livery with the TOPS code OJX - Peco do make it in red/grey but with an OBA TOPS code.
Alternative numbering: 6211


Covered Vans


Dapol Cat No NB-009, SR 7T Gunpowder Van No 61204 Diagram 1701 Built LSWR 1912
The three roof struts helps to give this away, but the lettering on the SR model is all wrong for that period. It is accurate structurally, but needs SR lettering added to either side of the doors. Remove the 's' and 7T and number, add 'Load 7 Tons' to bottom right corner and add running number in larger digits above that. Rest of lettering is okay.
Alternative numbering: 61201-61212


Graham Farish Cat No 2401 LMS 12T Twin-Vent Van No 7126 Diagram 2078 Built c.1940-1947
Has incorrect shallow-sloping roof. Not LMS at all, but built to SR Diagram 2078, mostly built in 1944 for the war effort and shared with the other companies. Should be in post-1937 LMS bauxite with small company lettering. (Photo below).
Alternative numbering: within the range 523340-523400


Graham Farish Cat No 2301 LMS 12T Single Vent Refrigerator Van No 7704 Diagram ? Built ?
Generally accurate to an LNER design but should be fitted with vacuum pipes. The LMS used a flatter roof profile than the LNER and, as built, their sliding doors didn't have the central horizontal. Another LNER-only feature are the two pressings above the end vent. There's now a new super-detailed version of the LNER fitted underframe, though the old body could still be used to represent the unfitted van. Alternatively, use the earlier body only in NGS kit NGK018 (see Identifying Kit Wagons). The Midland Railway van (NGK003) would also still be common well into the 1930s.
Alternative numbering: 91548, 117870


Graham Farish Cat No 2403 SR 10T Twin-Vent Van No 52783 Diagram 1426/29 Built 1919/1931
Has incorrect shallow-sloping roof but is otherwise fairly accurate.
Alternative numbering: ?


Graham Farish Cat No 2601 LMS 8T Cattle Wagon Diagram 1661 Built 1922-1931
Based on early LMS practice (although it's the wrong length), but the top of the sides was altered twice during its life so later versions are too tall with a horrible thick plank just below the roof. If you can live with the approximately 3mm length deficiency then hunt out the earlier ones.
Alternative numbering: 14516, 21704, 23717


Peco Cat No NR-50A BR 8T Banana Van with Fyffes Logo No ? Diagram ? Built ?
A passable GWR Mink. Also useful as a base for customisation into vans for the others of the Big Four, but not entirely accurate for any of them.
Alternative numbering: ?


Peco Cat No NR-42S SR 10T Insulated Banana Van No 50680 Diagram 1477 Built 1931
The Peco Banana/insulated van almost matches vans used by the LNER, LMS, & SR. Earlier examples to D1660 didn't have the diagonal strapping when built, though there is an extra grille/vent on the end and heavy bumpers for the doors. The Refrigerated (later Insulated) vans to D1672 had the same body (without the end vents) but with roof hatches for ice and a ladder at one end. Both the SR and LMS vans featured the small angled supports at each end; however, in both cases the planking was vertical, like the sides (the SR had a Banana version to D1478). The LNER had very similar Refrigerated and Banana vans and with the horizontally planked ends; however they had two grille/vents each end and wooden or later angle iron supports that went right to the roof. The Peco van is a kind of amalgam of all these vans but not entirely any one of them.

If the Parkside 7mm kit is anything to go by, this is a fairly close match to the SR insulated van, so re-lettering and renumbering is called for. Should also be fitted with vacuum pipes, at least for its pre-war days.
Alternative numbering: Insulated Vans 50568, 50559; Banana Vans 50480; Meat Vans 50289


Peco Cat No NR-45S SR 10T Cattle Wagon No 53710 Diagram ? Built ?
Seemingly based on BR Diagram 1/353, built between 1949-1954 and based on a final GWR design. Definitely not SR (or LMS) and also overlong.


Specialised Wagons


Dapol Cat No NB-027 United Dairies 6-Wheel Milk Tank Diagram 3155 Type 3 Built 1932
Accurate but unnumbered.
Alternative numbering: 4419-4424


Peco Cat No NR-P167 United Dairies 4-Wheel Milk Tank Diagram 3152 Type 1 Built 1931
Accurate but unnumbered.
Alternative numbering: 4404-4409


Brake Vans


Graham Farish Cat No 3003 SR 20T Brake Van No 55657 Diagram 1576 Built 1922
Based on a late LB&SCR design and reasonably accurate.
Alternative numbering: 55598


Some identification has very kindly been provided by Graham of Gramodels, Alan of Etched Pixels, and NGF members Zunnan, E Pinniger, and BernardTPM.


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