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OTHER MODELLING WORK: Identifying Kit Wagons


Identifying Kit Wagons   Identifying RTR Wagons

17 February 2014

It can sometimes be hard to work out whether wagon kits are appropriate for a particular layout that's set in a particular time. My own interests are for a mixture of LMS/S&DJR/SR in 1930, so this list is largely an attempt to narrow down the kit options in that field.

Please note that the list is incomplete.

 

NGS Cat No NGK003 LMS 10T Outside-Framed Box Van MR Diagram 362 Built 1905-1907
Ex-Midland Railway Diagram D360-362. LMS diagram not known.
Alternative numbering: 3158, 3906

NGS LMS Van
NGS outside-framed box van to Midland Railway diagram D362

 

NGS Cat No NGK018 LMS 12T Vented Box Van Diagram 1676 Built 1924-28
Also comes with a non-vented version to D1667. Fairly closely based on the preceding Midland Railway D633 10T vans which can also be modelled with a few modifications.

The other van in this kit produces D1814 of 1928-1932,  notable by the horizontal planking, but remove the vertical braces as these vans were internally braced. If you add diagonal bracing to the horizontal planked van at either end you'll have a Diagram 1897, of the mid-1930s.

Also, if you combine the vertical planked sides with the pressed steel ends of the two vans, and add in the required wrap around onto the ends you can also build Diagram 1832 of around the 1930 period.

Or horizontal plank sides, steel ends, and vertical planked door for a Diagram 1891. These kits really can be kit-bashed!
Alternative numbering for D1676: 91548, 117870

 

NGS Cat No NGK018 LMS 12T Non-Vented Box Van Diagram 1664 Built 1924-1926
Comes with vented version.
Alternative numbering: 93847, 235849

NGS Cat No NGK021 SR 12T Box Van Diagrams 1428/29 & 1452/55/58 Built 1929-c.1950?
The kit builds three different versions of the SR standard 10' wb 12T box van:
  Even-planked on standard RCH 9' wb chassis (Diagram 1429, from 1929)
  Even-planked and uneven-planked on a 10' wb chassis, all vacuum fitted (Diagram 1458, 1936-39)
  2+2-planked, unfitted (handbrake only) and vacuum-fitted (vb) (Diagram 1455, 1939-45)
  Plywood-bodied, all (hb) (Diagram 1452, 1945-51)

All remaining (hb) vans were fitted with (vb) after 1956. Some vans to SR Diagram 1458 were also built c.1944 for the LMS (some had 2+2 doors): LMS Diagram 2078 (apparently). Some vans to SR Diagram 1455 were also built in 1943 as GWR Diagram V35. Some Diagram 1452 vans built after Nationalisation appeared with B-prefixed numbers (BR Diagram 1/202).
Alternative numbering: Diagram 1428 (1929-1936) - 47491, 48323; Diagram 1458 (1936-39) - 47001-100, 48277-322, 49140-67/69-230; Diagram 1455 (1939-45) - 44719-988, 54001-250 (hb) and 49427-951, 64921-5280 (vb); Diagram 1452 (1945-51) - 50901-1000, 51351-400, 54251-500, 56501-7010. LMS Diagram 2078 (c.1944) - M523xxx series. GWR Diagram V35 (1943) - W144xxx series. BR Diagram 1/202 (Post-1948) - B752354-753029 series

 

Chivers Finelines Cat No RC910 SR 12T Luggage/PMV General Utility Van Diagram 3103 Built 1934-35
Even planked arrangement with single vent ends, matching this to a first batch built at Ashford in Oct 1934-Mar 1935.
Alternative running numbers: 2181-2230 (later batches will also match this model)

 

P&D Marsh Cat No A501 SR 12T 1 Plank Fixed Side Stone Truck Diagram 1308 Built 1892-1910
Alternative numbering: 7570, 7583

P&D Marsh 1 Plank wagon
P&D Marsh SR 12T 1-plank fixed side stone truck, Diagram 1308

 

P&D Marsh Cat No A502 LMS ??T Bolster Wagon Diagram ? Built ?
Alternative numbering: ?

 

P&D Marsh Cat No A551 SR 12T Luggage/PMV General Utility Van Diagram 3103 Built 1934-35
Even planked arrangement using the single vent ends, matching this to a first batch built at Ashford in Oct 1934-Mar 1935.
Alternative running numbers: 2181-2230 (later batches will also match this model)

 

P&D Marsh Cat No A551 SR 14T Covcar/CCT Van Diagram 3102 (later 3101) Built 1931-32
Even planked arrangement using the covcar double doors, matching this to a batch built at Ashford in Apr 1931-Feb 1932.
Alternative running numbers: 2371-2460 (later batches will also match this model)

 

P&D Marsh Cat No A553 SR 10T Twin Vent Van Diagram 1429 Built 1926-1947
Alternative numbering: 44611, 52783

 

Ultima Cat No LSW62 SR 10T High Ended Open Wagon Diagram 1309 Built LSWR 1881
A four plank round-ended wagon. Many were built in the 1870s-1890s and then scrapped, to be replaced by a wagon of the same diagram but with later features (such as different axle boxes) but bearing exactly the same running number. At least 2,726 were taken into SR services, although many were scrapped in the mid and late 1920s. Some examples survived into BR days. although often with the rounded ends removed.

The way to be sure about this diagram is to check the end framing. This batch of wagons is almost unique in that the framing for the ends is on the outside of the wagon and the sides extend to the end of the framing.
Alternative numbering: Between 435 & 5071, & 6424/25/29, 7180-99, 7202-21/79-7378, 7563/64 /67/69 inclusive

 

Gramodels Cat No WN05 SR 8/10T Ventilated Meat Van Diagram 1481 Built LSWR c.1891-1912
Vacuum pipes should be added to this diagram.
Alternative numbering: 51001-9/11-14 /16-28/30-33/3537/39/40/42/44/45/51/53-56/60/62/64/67-69/72-74/76-84/86-51103/5-8/11-16/18-25/27-44 (all 8T), 51157 (10T)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN06 SR 10T Insulated Goods Van Diagram 1410 Built LSWR 1885-1904
A mixture of timber and steel underframes and with low roof.
Alternative numbering: Between 42281 & 43899, & 43930-44106/19-38/54-44228/72-74 inclusive

 

Gramodels Cat No WN12 SR 10T Cattle Wagon Diagram ? Built LSWR ?
Alternative numbering: ?

 

Gramodels Cat No WN15 SR 10T Ventilated Butter Van Diagram 1410 Built LSWR 1885-1904
Southern Wagons Vol 1 suggests this should be Diagram 1413 but the specifications are almost entirely identical anyway. Timber underframe, low roof (except 43925, with steel underframe).
Alternative numbering: (Diagram 1413) 43900-15/17-29

 

Gramodels Cat No WN16 SR 12T Low Machine Well Wagon Diagram 1673 Built LSWR 1921
Alternative numbering: 61009/11-13/19

 

Gramodels Cat No WN01 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 1. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN02 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 2. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN03 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 1 sheeted. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN04 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 2 sheeted. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN07 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Open Version 1 with sheet rail. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN08 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Open Version 2 with sheet rail. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN09 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 1 with steel end-posts. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Gramodels Cat No WN10 SR 12/15T 8 Plank Wagon Diagram 1316 Built LSWR/SR 1904-25
Version 2 with steel end-posts. Only the last batch of 100 in 1925 had timber underframes and a capacity of 12T.
Alternative numbering: 7987-9078, 9079-9128 (ex-LSWR), 9141-9340 (SR)

 

Much of the identification has very kindly been provided by Graham of Gramodels, and Alan of Etched Pixels respectively, along with NGF members Zunnan, and BernardTPM.

 

Identifying Kit Wagons   Identifying RTR Wagons